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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters

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they exist among us and sometimes they

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win

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even the devil was an angel once

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the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not

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human some of us seek answers to the

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origin and existence of cryptids in the

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unexplained

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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and accepted boundaries

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welcome to our nightmare

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of phantom's monsters

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radio where we explore the strange and

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the unexplained i am your host lon

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stricker thanks for joining us

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uh so tonight our guest is jason hewitt

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who's a journalist broadcaster and

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podcaster with a degree in filmmaking

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and film studies

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a lifelong interest in the paranormal

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led him to join vancouver

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paranormal society in 2017 where he was

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a lead investigator and society director

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until 2020

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when he and colleague peter wren

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launched the canadian paranormal

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foundation

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is a writer director and co-creator of

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the award-winning paranormal reality

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series we want to believe

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and narrator for the ufo show both of

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which are on the paranormal network

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in 2020 jason and peter wren ko

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co-authored the best-selling book i want

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to believe one man's journey into the

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paranormal which highlights peter's

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career as a paranormal investigator

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and in 2021 the follow-up book i want to

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believe in the investigators archive

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and then a third book the most recent

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dying light

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an investigation into near-death

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experiences

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this year

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so uh jason thanks for coming on tonight

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well thanks so much for having me on lon

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it's an honor to be here

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well yeah we've never met so it's always

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nice to meet somebody

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uh and i appreciate you following us for

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the time you mentioned before so uh yeah

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great to meet you

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yeah i've been waiting excited about

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this all week actually

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so you know i i did read the description

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and a bit about you

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what what are you actually doing now

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what

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you know you you're doing some

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presentation you just wrote a book

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and we're going to talk about that

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because i know we've got people who are

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interested in near-death experiences

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so uh but just give us a thumbnail what

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what you've been doing

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well yeah i i mean i kind of i've been

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interested in the paranormal for forever

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like we were talking about before like

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most people are like you know started

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interest as a child but it's really only

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in the last few years that i've kind of

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really started doing this i don't want

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to say professionally because it just

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seems like an odd phrasing to use for

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something

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yeah this kind of line of work yeah um

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but yeah i know like i'm focusing

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primarily on

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i manage the paranormal network for joe

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blow media incorporated so i'm the guy

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that show runs all the programming on

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there and we've got about five or six

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ongoing series that cover everything um

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from from ufos to bigfoot to hauntings

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myself and peter do a couple shows

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hunting the haunted where we kind of

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dissect different well-known hauntings

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and ghost stories and then we have our

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documentary series we want to believe um

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so that's kind of one side of things and

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then the other side of it

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is doing the authorship so we just

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finished the book dying light and we're

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working on another book for beyond the

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fray publishing like our books have been

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published through beyond the phrase with

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g michael hoff and shannon legrow

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but we're also like i'm a paranormal

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investigator and that's kind of where

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all this really started like i

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co-founded the canadian paranormal

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foundation and we go out and investigate

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hauntings residential hauntings

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haunt commercial hauntings historic

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sites you know we get a bit into bigfoot

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hunting more for our own entertainment

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and interest than anything else and you

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know do sky watching and things like

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that so

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yeah that's my day like every day is

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just doing this kind of like yourself

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with the blog right collect it you know

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yeah i mean it's an eclectic thing uh

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you know so much of the

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is connected now and uh

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it's interesting

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all the things you can come up with but

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uh yeah exactly

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it is and i mean that's why we jump from

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ever like a little bit of everything it

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feels like right now like just kind of

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fingers in a whole bunch of different

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different parts just seeing seeing what

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comes out of each and every one of them

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so i feel kind of opportunistic doing it

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but at the same time it's just the way

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it's kind of worked out this wasn't by

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design it just sort of happened

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um so you wrote this book dying light uh

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tell us a bit about it i mean uh

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first of all have you had a near-death

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experience yourself

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well and and that's the funny thing i i

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personally haven't although i had an

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experience that mirrored something in in

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the book

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um peter had had a near-death experience

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when he had a liver transplant you know

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he had flatlined basically but we were

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interviewing people for our second book

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the investigative investigators archive

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and one of the stories in there

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we were interviewing angela artusso

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who's a paranormal investigator out of

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new york city and she was kind of

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telling her life story and she had had

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this near-death experience that was so

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different than near-death experiences

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we'd heard about before that wasn't the

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typical tunnel of light and shadowy

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figure going over you know into another

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side of the universe

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hers was different it was a bit

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frightening

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but it was really profound and when we

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kind of finished the interview with her

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i called peter up you know right away

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because we're doing it over zoom because

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it was in the middle of the pandemic

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and i said we got to write a book about

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this like about near-death experiences

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because this story is great it wouldn't

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fit into this other book so let's go out

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and kind of just talk to different

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people who had near-death experiences

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and talked to kind of neuroscientists

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and grief counselors and a whole range

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of people and and put it in this book

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and and we pitched it to

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beyond the fray and they liked the idea

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and it just sort of rolled from there

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interesting so tell us a bit about some

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of the experiences that you've written

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about

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well one of them angela's was really

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interesting and it's a chapter in there

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called the man in black

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and her story she works as a hospital

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and she was a passenger in the car on

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the way to work and was t-boned

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the truck that hit her like it shattered

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the window in the passenger side she was

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wearing a scarf because it was february

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the scarf got tangled up in the grill of

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the truck as it pulled across and

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started strangling her

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somehow that came loose the vehicle spun

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around the driver was fine so they got

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out to get help and angela's laying

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there just a broken bloody mess really

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she knew that if she kind of closed her

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eyes that would probably be it but like

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she kind of figured i'm not gonna make

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it and next she kind of looks over in

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the the driver's seat and there's a man

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sitting there staring straight ahead

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wearing all black

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white porcelain skin black hair

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eyes black like you know the black-eyed

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children phenomena basically

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he's just not looking at her staring

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straight ahead

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responds but not like telepathically you

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know how it usually goes in near-death

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experiences they're actually talking to

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each other and the man's basically

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telling her you're going to be fine

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don't worry you're going to get out of

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here

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and he just keeps repeating this to her

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out of the vehicle like the jaws of life

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and they load her into the ambulance and

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the man in black's there with her

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holding her hand at this point telling

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her everything's gonna be okay you're

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gonna be fine

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they drive to the hospital

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pull her out to take her into surgery

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and she's like where's where's this guy

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where's the man that was with me and

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she's getting hauled off and they're

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like you were the only one in the

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ambulance it was you and the paramedics

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that's the only you're the only ones

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there and it was just that's basically

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her story so it's

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it was just so unique and so unlike

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anything else that that we had heard

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that i'd heard just as someone with an

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interest in near-death experiences yeah

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so that's kind of the one that kicked it

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all off really

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um other ones in there fit more into the

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traditional

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tunnel of light you know

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cloudy

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plain area some figure waiting for them

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on the other side

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that kind of thing but that was that was

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the most unique story in it that we

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i have uh yeah i think

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especially those uh those instances that

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are similar to what you you mentioned

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earlier

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uh where people are in an accident or

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something and they're clinging to life

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or communicating with them telling them

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that everything's going to be all right

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i've heard so many of those

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i you know there was one instance that i

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remember

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and this was out california and i don't

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remember the exact location

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but uh

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there was a um

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there was a

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automobile accident and the woman was in

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the car

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and uh

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this

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person came to her

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this other woman came to her dressed in

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a paramedic outfit

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and uh she thought it was actually the

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paramedic and

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she was

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doing anything other than just talking

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to her

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and

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after

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the you know the firemen got there to

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got her out got her an ambulance got her

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to the hospital she was asking about the

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paramedic

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and it turned out

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it was a uh

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it was it was the paramedic that was in

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a helicopter coming to

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the uh to the accident and crashed and

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the woman died holy cow yeah

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that's unreal yeah that

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you know i that was one of the most

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amazing ones ever but i heard another

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one very similar that too

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so uh yeah i mean

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you know you hear all kinds of crazy

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stories but um that one's kind of stuck

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with me well and that would because

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that's almost like it's one part near

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death experience one part ghost story

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you know what i mean something that

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happened immediately like just just you

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know like

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minutes earlier like that's that's

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that's crazy but fascinating you got to

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wonder if the paramedic actually even

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knew she was dead

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and

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you know just came to this woman's aid

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though the the act that from what i

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under remember is the uh helicopter

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accident was like four or five miles

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away from the actual accident

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and uh yeah she was there and when she

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described it to the people in the

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hospital

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they were stunned because it was exactly

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the description of the woman who had

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died in the crash

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the helicopter crash

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that's amazing it's almost like an

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intelligent haunting yeah right yeah i

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wonder if the paramedic knew they were

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dead

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yeah that's what i'm saying

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yeah maybe she didn't even know she had

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died

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um you know i i do spirit rescue work

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and occasionally you know you will go

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into a situation where you're trying to

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help a client

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and it seems the earthbound doesn't even

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really know they're dead

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you try to communicate but the way they

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react and the way they act it's just

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like

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well they don't even know they're dead

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they they're here but they they don't

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even know they died

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so uh

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yeah that's a common question we ask

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when we do our investigations with

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canadian paranormal too is do you do you

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know that you've died like what year is

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it right now right and sometimes you get

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that it's you know 100 years in the past

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kind of thing it's like well no it's

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actually you know 2020 or 2021 not not

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you know 1920 or 1921 right i think a

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lot of spirits

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don't realize what's happened to them

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right

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oh absolutely one of the theories we've

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come up across it's all it's all

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speculation but you know yeah

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yeah it's um

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i mean you you hear of all kinds of

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reasons why they you think they believe

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they're here they you know they're

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they're there but they know they're dead

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they're there by choice because they had

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unfinished business or they're there to

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protect one of the living or

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or they just don't know they're dead so

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you know you you hear all kinds of

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uh hear all kinds of stories but we fear

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into like spirit rescue and um

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and uh if you do have some type of

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intuitive connection or psychic

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connection with them

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uh

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you can hear you can get a lot of a lot

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of different uh

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uh stories or interpretation what they

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think is going on and

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quite frankly a lot of them don't even

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want to move on it's you know it's all

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you know it's all free will they don't

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want to move they don't move

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no and i mean we've been we've

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encountered that as well right

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you know in certain cases some of them

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it is simply like that recording like

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almost like the stone tape theory is

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they're just spirits that have an event

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has been more recorded than anything

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else but when it seems intelligent or

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even like you know spirits that move

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around they

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we've had cases where people the spirit

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has followed someone like you know

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someone was a grief counselor in

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counseling and it was the spirit of

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someone who'd committed suicide and the

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person who was the counselor was

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counseling the loved one left behind but

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the spirit didn't want to

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didn't want to leave that person

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who they loved even though they had

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killed themselves you know what i mean

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right and then followed the counselor

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home because it was where they felt sort

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of a connection to the counselor yeah

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which i find just just very interesting

427
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so it's like it's they're still being

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people right

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right they're just they're just not here

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yeah i mean some of the more interesting

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stories that i've heard or i've run

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across while doing work or in nursing

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homes particularly in hospitals

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but um

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you know

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people who are in a nursing home

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or

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maybe they're at that point where

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they're getting near to death

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uh they describe all kinds of weird

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stuff i mean

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um not only the relatives who had passed

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on but you know

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a lot of different things and um

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you know i i had one woman tell me at

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one point

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she said there's at least 20 people that

448
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come in here anytime during the day or

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night

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uh i know they're not alive but they

451
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just come in here and i i asked

452
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ourselves do you ever

453
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have you ever had this ability to see

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them before

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and she just didn't

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and she said no all of a sudden i'm

457
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starting to see all these people and she

458
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said i think i think i'm going to be

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dying soon i just that's just the way i

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feel even though she wasn't really sick

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she was just in this nursing home

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and uh honestly she didn't last but a

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couple weeks longer she just died from

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natural causes that must be maybe as you

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get closer to the end right when you're

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you're younger than a kid the kid like

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my son and especially in the first few

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years of his life would see stuff all

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the time and talk about you know the the

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thing in the walls at our house or the

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thing that was living downstairs that

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would always bug the dog and he's he's

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gotten older he's seen less and less you

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know less stuff he's 11 now

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and i always wonder if towards the end

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it's kind of the same thing you're just

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sort of your your mind just lets you

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kind of get back in tune with what's

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going on around you yeah um with the

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paranormal i mean my mom went before she

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passed away was seeing stuff in her

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house all the time and just in the last

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few weeks of her life right like it was

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there all the time exactly yeah i've um

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yeah i've run across a lot of different

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things but um yeah and i've done a lot

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of work with kids

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and uh it's interesting some of the

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things they come up with because

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when you do talk to them they're seeing

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something oh yeah you know they're

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realizing something i mean they're

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they're so young they haven't been

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given uh

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the word that

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they're not really supposed to be seeing

497
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this stuff you know oh yeah they're

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they're but they're they're not

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compromised and uh yeah it's really

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bizarre

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i can remember my kid he was maybe one

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and he just one night he was crying so i

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went in to take a look at him and he was

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standing up in his crib and just

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pointing like into the corner of the

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room and crying and just going like this

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like there was something in that corner

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of the room that he said and i looked

509
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and i couldn't see anything it was just

510
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it was just dark but i thought that was

511
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that was kind of fascinating too it's

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yeah i think it's just a natural part of

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our experience we just haven't figured

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it out yet and it freaks people out yeah

515
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oh yeah

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um james west has asked uh what's the

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most common thing that you hear

518
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from those who have had a near-death

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experience

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the most common

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i think what's interesting is everyone

522
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who's had one at least that we

523
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interviewed for the book is that it was

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a positive experience

525
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yeah they i know that there's people

526
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who've had negative experiences and we

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might write a second book focusing on

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that but all the people we interviewed

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for the book

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came back with a renewed vigor for life

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they saw the world very differently they

532
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felt more at peace with the concept of

533
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death all of them were like yep sign

534
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when it happens i'm ready to go

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um and they all sort of

536
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saw that the world that the society were

537
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in was something that we created and

538
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they didn't feel that it was the reality

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of life um they thought life was a lot

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more spiritual a lot more about love and

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togetherness

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uh and just found it very positive so

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that was that was i thought really

544
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really interesting it was uplifting to

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write a book about death and kind of

546
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come out of it with that general message

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i thought james

548
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um vincent wants to know do you think

549
00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:46,640
paranormal investigators are more likely

550
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to experience things at their home

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i

552
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,600
maybe

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like yourself lon you're just in tune a

554
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:12,799
bit more because you're maybe you're

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open to the idea

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so you're not dismissing something as

557
00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:17,120
just that's out of the corner of my eye

558
00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:19,520
whatever yeah um but even stuff that's

559
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,360
been so on the nose like where you can't

560
00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:23,760
just dismiss it as something else like

561
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yeah

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i think it comes with the territory well

563
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you know i'm an intuitive so

564
00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:31,919
i i kind of drawn to this stuff maybe of

565
00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:34,400
being a beacon and

566
00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:37,280
the energy is drawn to me and maybe tag

567
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:39,200
along if i you know if i'm on a case or

568
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:41,200
something and comes i try to i try to

569
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:42,400
avoid that

570
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:44,880
uh as much as possible it can be a

571
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:47,520
problem at some point but um

572
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:49,280
yeah it does happen and you know it's

573
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:51,039
interesting when i when i started doing

574
00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:52,880
spirit rescue

575
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:54,880
i started getting involved with helping

576
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:57,200
people you know most of our cases were

577
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,960
actual people who were doing paranormal

578
00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:00,400
investigations

579
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:02,000
really yeah

580
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:05,280
i i honestly i'd say 70 or more

581
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,840
were paranormal investigators that were

582
00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:09,840
dragging stuff home with them

583
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:12,000
well and we we always call it we call it

584
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:13,760
the paranormal hangover or the next day

585
00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:15,760
you're just completely destroyed and and

586
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:17,039
some people think it's maybe because

587
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:18,240
something followed you home or they just

588
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,760
bled your energy dry or maybe you just

589
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:20,799
stayed up till three o'clock in the

590
00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:22,880
morning and you shouldn't have but

591
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,559
and and we've had people say that they

592
00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:26,000
thought something's followed them home

593
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,960
or or yeah or followed us from my home

594
00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:30,960
to an investigation that kind of thing i

595
00:20:33,669 --> 00:20:31,840
think it's

596
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,679
just kind of part of part of being an

597
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:35,440
investigator really

598
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:36,640
but i think it's around us all the time

599
00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:39,520
anyways no matter where you are oh sure

600
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,440
yeah i mean um

601
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,679
i mean there are times when i i'll be at

602
00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:46,480
that point where i'm it's very rare

603
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:49,039
now as opposed to what it used to be but

604
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,720
i i can be

605
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:52,400
laying down and getting ready to go to

606
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,840
sleep and you're almost at that point

607
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:55,919
where you know between sleep and

608
00:21:03,669 --> 00:20:58,080
being awake and it's like

609
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,750
faces like in a window or something

610
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:07,520
trying to get my attention

611
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:08,799
uh

612
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:09,919
and

613
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,720
get my attention they're you know

614
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:14,960
they're just trying to um

615
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:17,600
get me to pay attention to them they

616
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,159
they always have something to say to you

617
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:22,480
uh it seems you know and i try to ignore

618
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:25,840
that i i've gotten better at ignoring it

619
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:28,080
uh but unfortunately some people just

620
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:29,039
are not

621
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,039
good enough to ignore it

622
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:33,039
or not able to ignore it but no i've

623
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:34,320
heard all kinds of stories from people

624
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,760
who are beacons

625
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:37,679
uh it turns into be a lot of problems

626
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:39,440
and um

627
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:41,039
you know a lot of hauntings that i've

628
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:42,799
been involved with or people who are

629
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,480
beacons who are who have abilities but

630
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:48,880
their you know spirit energy is drawn to

631
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:49,919
them

632
00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:52,159
and uh you know it's just a matter of

633
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,320
getting them to um

634
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:56,559
to realize what's going on

635
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,720
and to kind of learn

636
00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:00,400
how to protect themselves and how to

637
00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:02,559
ignore it for the most part because

638
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,440
some people just drive some people crazy

639
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,520
oh yeah no it's it's something you do

640
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,520
have to learn to control i mean we have

641
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:11,520
a case where we're fortunate that we can

642
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:13,280
we keep being able to go back she keeps

643
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,480
letting us into her house where this

644
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:16,320
activity is going on and she doesn't

645
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,520
want to move so it's stuff that we've

646
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,840
told her like you need to

647
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:21,520
you know you have to be in control of

648
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,919
this situation it's your house so you

649
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:25,200
want if you don't want to move and you

650
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,480
don't want to try to get someone to kick

651
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:28,080
it out of the house you got to figure

652
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:30,000
out how to coexist with it you know what

653
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:31,679
i mean the ground rule's done you can't

654
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,520
scare my kids anymore you can't do this

655
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,440
like stop closing doors in front of our

656
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,600
faces right like but you got to be firm

657
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:39,360
like you would be with a child or some

658
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:41,440
neighbor that was bothering you

659
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,640
basically

660
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:44,640
um and then i know for myself i just i

661
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,799
try to ground frequently like you know

662
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,159
once or twice a week do grounding

663
00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,480
exercises just so i don't

664
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,159
feel all just pulled in a bazillion

665
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:54,320
different places at once and see stuff

666
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,760
all the time out of the corner of my

667
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:56,799
eyes

668
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,799
well you know for someone who does what

669
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,559
we do i think that's

670
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,400
that's got to be done it

671
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:04,799
all the time yeah and it's good that you

672
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:07,039
do that um

673
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,880
you know if i get into a situation i try

674
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:10,720
to protect myself in particular for the

675
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:13,679
situation but uh just being a homer you

676
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:14,400
know

677
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,679
i do try to ground myself and um

678
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:19,679
yeah i think that that's a prerequisite

679
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,400
for anybody that's involved with this oh

680
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,760
yeah big time

681
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,600
um eventually want to know have you

682
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:27,520
heard of extraterrestrials in your death

683
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,960
experiences

684
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,880
that was something that we did touch on

685
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:33,039
just a little bit in the book um because

686
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,640
i know it's something

687
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:36,640
that people talk a lot about

688
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,159
extraterrestrials being there and even

689
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,679
because the experiences are almost so

690
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:41,440
similar like in terms of like like you

691
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,320
know

692
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:44,000
some reports of alien abductions and

693
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:45,600
then some reports of near-death

694
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,880
experiences

695
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:48,480
but i didn't get too far we didn't get

696
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:50,000
too far into it um just because we

697
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:51,600
suddenly had all so much material that

698
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,760
we just we sort of saw the one direction

699
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,360
the book was kind of going

700
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,200
so i think i'd like to if we write a

701
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:58,960
second book focus more on some of the

702
00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:59,919
people that didn't have the good

703
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,240
experiences then touch up more on

704
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:04,559
the alien the alien experience that goes

705
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:06,640
along with it i mean

706
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:08,159
and i think it's interesting how how

707
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,440
extraterrest feels like you know they

708
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:11,039
don't just come up in nde come up in

709
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,600
bigfoot sightings and so much other

710
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:15,360
paranormal

711
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,039
experience you know experiences and

712
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:19,120
locations like we have a place not far

713
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,559
from here where we go squatch hunting

714
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:22,400
where there's also ufos seen quite a bit

715
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:23,279
right

716
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:23,919
it's interesting how the

717
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,600
extraterrestrial theme kind of ties into

718
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,120
so much within

719
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,679
within the paranormal field yeah i think

720
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,200
more investigators are starting to

721
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,279
realize that too it does it does seem

722
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:35,840
that when you get involved with the case

723
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:38,720
then invariably something else pops his

724
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:40,720
ugly head up there i mean you know

725
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,279
uh you got spirit activity or ufo

726
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:45,200
activity even in extraterrestrial

727
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,799
activity involved whether you're doing

728
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:49,520
it like a squatch case or some some

729
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:51,840
other cryptic case there always seems to

730
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:54,320
be something else behind it

731
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,799
oh yeah yeah we did uh some episodes we

732
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:58,240
did a big series of bigfoot hunt

733
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,840
episodes for we want to believe a couple

734
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:01,679
of years ago and we went out to this

735
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:03,120
location

736
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:04,240
and we were doing all the stuff for

737
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,600
swatching you know what i mean like the

738
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,919
baby crying and we brought a aboriginal

739
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,279
man with us who could do the prayers and

740
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:11,679
the the tree knocks and everything but

741
00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:13,039
because we're um

742
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:14,559
we're ghost hunters we figure we've got

743
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,919
a spirit box why don't we just break it

744
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,600
out and see what happens right so we

745
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:19,440
walked off as soon as we turned that

746
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:20,799
thing on before we even asked a question

747
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,600
this voice came through help me

748
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,120
and we started doing line questioning we

749
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:27,360
got a name that guy named robert and

750
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:30,080
just continuous act requests for help me

751
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:31,760
so we ended up we decided we wanted to

752
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:34,080
go back later and try to do some

753
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:35,440
research see maybe if someone name

754
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,880
something happened to a guy named robert

755
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:38,159
in this area

756
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:40,159
um and how that tied into things and we

757
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,679
didn't really get much but on the drive

758
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:43,600
back down we saw a roadside marker for a

759
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,559
gentleman

760
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:46,480
named robert backer who had died only a

761
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,080
few kilometers down the road in an

762
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,880
accident from where we were squatching

763
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:52,320
and so that just took on a completely

764
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:54,159
different direction and it just yeah i

765
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,520
don't know it's just it's it's

766
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:56,880
interesting how

767
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,000
we got those

768
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,840
parallels well well essentially trying

769
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,240
to just do bigfoot hunting

770
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:04,400
so what kind of experience have you had

771
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,000
uh in in any any investigations

772
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,320
uh we've had we've had like a variety of

773
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,240
them like like a lot

774
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,240
of the cases are like very typical like

775
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,559
not much actually really happens

776
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,880
when you go looking but then we've had

777
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,480
certain spots that we're kind of finding

778
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:23,039
to be hot spots like we have one place

779
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,480
called bailey house which is about an

780
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,679
hour and a half from where we live and

781
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,679
it's a historical home

782
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:30,159
that's now open to the public and

783
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,679
stuff has been reported there for years

784
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,679
and we've had um

785
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:35,520
we've had toy

786
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:36,480
toys

787
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:42,000
you know we had we i've been sworn at by

788
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,679
spirits in in that house which i think

789
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:45,120
is really interesting

790
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:47,679
and downstairs in the cellar

791
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:51,039
uh we we set up a laser grid system

792
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:52,159
so i don't know if you've used those

793
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,200
lawn where you got it it's kind of

794
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:54,960
basically it doesn't matter

795
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:55,760
yeah

796
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:57,039
we had that and the theory is that

797
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,400
something will cut in front of it that

798
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,919
even if they're not physically there and

799
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,360
sure enough like we turned this laser

800
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:03,039
grid on and you could see like it was

801
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,559
like a silhouette

802
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:06,240
a shadow like part of a person standing

803
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,360
there

804
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,960
turned on the light

805
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,559
nothing obstructing the laser good that

806
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,559
could have caused that turned it off

807
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:14,080
it's still there and we did this three

808
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:15,279
or four times then slowly you could

809
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:16,640
almost just see the shadow almost like

810
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,039
it walked away we actually filmed that

811
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,880
for we want to believe and got that on

812
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:22,399
on the one of the episodes it was called

813
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:23,600
the dollhouse

814
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,919
which i thought was quite interesting

815
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:26,960
um

816
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:29,200
this one location i can't give her name

817
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,320
it's the the person where we've been

818
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,080
able to go back repeatedly

819
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,600
like we've had

820
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,279
bangs it's a three-story home we've had

821
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:36,880
whatever is in there having us running

822
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,320
up and down all three stories because

823
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:40,159
we'd be in the basement

824
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:41,679
ask for something and through our

825
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:43,200
digital recorders you could hear like

826
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:44,880
give us a doc and suddenly on the third

827
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,960
floor you could hear like two knock like

828
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,960
two knocks like that so we go upstairs

829
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,960
and when we're upstairs something bangs

830
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,480
on the main level

831
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,159
you know that kind of activity and this

832
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:56,080
is a spirit this woman's lived in this

833
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:57,360
house for four or five years it's a

834
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:58,480
spirit that's been there as long as

835
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:00,159
she's been there

836
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,360
and she's had like when she moved in

837
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:05,039
like tupperware bins of clothes that

838
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,399
were put downstairs suddenly

839
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:08,480
materialized on the main level like

840
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,399
they've just sort of gone up up a level

841
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,000
and over

842
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,919
so it's that kind of activity which is

843
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:15,520
it's the most one of the most active

844
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,120
places we've been especially in terms of

845
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,279
knocks and movement and just you know

846
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,120
personal experiences

847
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:23,679
so we get a lot of things like that

848
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,799
um

849
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:27,600
we've been lucky uh there's a ghost town

850
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:28,640
here in british columbia named

851
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,039
barkerville it's from the gold rush area

852
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:33,039
that we had access to the whole town for

853
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,240
a weekend

854
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,240
and we had cameras set up where we've

855
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,240
we've actually picked up apparitions on

856
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,760
on film like

857
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,000
with motion sensor cameras going coming

858
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,679
through a door which i wish i could show

859
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,720
you that we don't i don't have the

860
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,799
picture in front of me unfortunately

861
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,880
take my word for it but that was you

862
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:50,640
know rare to get those kind of pictures

863
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:51,760
so i guess

864
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:54,320
really nothing out of the ordinary in

865
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:56,080
this field

866
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:58,080
but stuff that for us is pretty exciting

867
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,679
because as you know lon you can spend a

868
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,279
lot of time waiting to get

869
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,520
even just a good evp

870
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,880
um

871
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:06,080
in the last few years we've we've

872
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:07,679
noticed activity picking up i don't know

873
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,960
what the reasoning is we've been getting

874
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:11,279
a lot more active cases a lot more cases

875
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:14,880
involving electronics going off

876
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:16,559
um

877
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,600
yeah

878
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,200
it's it's hard to explain like we've

879
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,279
we've had a run in the last six months

880
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,720
where there's almost every time we've

881
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,080
gone out we've had a number of things

882
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:26,480
going off motion centers going off

883
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:29,760
uh cameras picking things up um

884
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:32,159
in a child's room we had a baby yoda

885
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,679
that in order to activate you have to

886
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:35,039
tap it on the head and it just started

887
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,720
responding to us

888
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:38,640
moving on its own to our questions can

889
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,200
you move please and the baby yoda starts

890
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,440
can you stop and it would stop okay

891
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:44,880
could you maybe move a little bit more

892
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,120
you know is responding that way

893
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,919
so i don't know why but

894
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:51,360
things have really ramped up in the last

895
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:52,720
few years i've been doing this for 18

896
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,159
years and it's been i say really in the

897
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,760
last couple that things have really

898
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,440
become interesting

899
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:59,520
from our perspective yeah i think

900
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,520
overall

901
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:03,279
for most investigators who've been doing

902
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,880
this a while things have gotten a little

903
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:07,120
more hairier the last couple years

904
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,559
that's a good way to put it it's harrier

905
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,200
yeah yeah it's just that um there's so

906
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:13,760
much different stuff that's showing up

907
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,080
uh that's

908
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,000
just unexplained you know

909
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,720
uh i mean in my instance has been these

910
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:22,960
these pale crawler humanoids or what the

911
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:25,440
hell they're called uh people call them

912
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,360
and uh they just seem to show up in all

913
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,520
kinds of different places but you know

914
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,600
even the cryptids themselves

915
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:34,240
are are kind of morphing into something

916
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,200
else

917
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:37,520
um people are talking about dog men or

918
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:39,279
upright canines and

919
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,039
we're starting to get more of these

920
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,679
things that look like hyena

921
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,919
you know looking hyena lake especially

922
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:47,440
here in pennsylvania

923
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,480
we've had

924
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,480
we're actually looking at five cases in

925
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:52,799
pennsylvania right now

926
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,799
uh so um it's that for whatever reason

927
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,559
that's been picking up

928
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:00,880
but uh yeah it's been pretty it's been

929
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:02,960
pretty wild but you're right you know

930
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,480
all in all

931
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:07,360
the activity has seemed to increase

932
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,039
and uh

933
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,440
you know i i i can't say i'm really

934
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,039
surprised

935
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:15,679
i think more people are

936
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:16,559
you know

937
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:20,799
are looking around and seeing things and

938
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:23,120
not as reluctant to come forward with it

939
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:24,880
um i don't know if that's what's been

940
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,279
going on with you but uh yeah i think

941
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:29,200
people are more open to it

942
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:31,440
i i agree like i think part of i think

943
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:32,720
part of it is because we were forced to

944
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:34,080
slow down for a while so people were

945
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,279
starting to pay more attention to what

946
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:37,039
was going on around them and i think

947
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,559
that made a difference

948
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,320
um and i think

949
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,640
there's just this energy now in general

950
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:44,640
i think people are i think maybe because

951
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,159
people are a little more anxious and

952
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,320
ramped up and edgy you know what i mean

953
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:50,240
that that's that energy is going out

954
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:52,159
there because i think i'd almost say

955
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,679
like even though it i've never felt

956
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:55,200
threatened on any recent investigations

957
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:56,399
everything just seems more aggressive

958
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,240
like it's something is really wanting to

959
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,480
to make contact in some way

960
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:02,159
like i said that the baby yoda thing and

961
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,679
the house where we're being run around

962
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:05,279
different floors like

963
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,799
i've like i said i've been doing this 18

964
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,159
years i hadn't had anything like that

965
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,320
for years on so many cases

966
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:12,000
with just it was all just stuff you get

967
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:14,080
an evp you'd see a shadow maybe you'd

968
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,440
get a good picture but it just seems

969
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,840
like things are just becoming more

970
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:19,360
aggressive

971
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,240
for lack of a better term well you know

972
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:24,399
that's just it i mean is the energy

973
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,240
overall ramping up to the point where

974
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:31,039
i mean are these something that's

975
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:32,399
from another

976
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,480
existence that's coming in

977
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:39,600
or somehow and making itself known

978
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:41,840
as opposed to

979
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,000
i i suppose that's possible

980
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,559
but it does seem that we we are really

981
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:48,159
getting

982
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:49,600
a lot of weird just like with this

983
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,760
chicago mothman stuff we've been working

984
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:54,000
for all these years i mean that gets

985
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,080
weirder and weirder as we go on i mean

986
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:58,240
we just get more and more

987
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:00,640
evidence that these things just are not

988
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,080
here all the time you know they're

989
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,320
coming in for another reality either

990
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,120
another dimension and um

991
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,840
you know it it's exciting it's something

992
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,679
new to us but

993
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:13,360
i mean wow it's like mind-blowing

994
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,640
sometimes and uh

995
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,640
you know as long as long as people keep

996
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,080
reporting and we're gonna look into it

997
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,159
but of course you know this is like like

998
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,000
everything else we're just we're just

999
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,919
getting more and more

1000
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:27,360
um

1001
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,799
that's what we've been noticing too just

1002
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,720
in terms of haunting cases we've had a

1003
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:32,159
run where we've had a really good run

1004
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:34,000
not just like we're just getting called

1005
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:35,519
out to people's homes and things just

1006
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,960
kind of seem to be happening yeah um

1007
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,480
yeah and it makes you wonder if it's

1008
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:42,080
building to something

1009
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,760
right like you know like with even the

1010
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:45,440
chicago mothman and like you said the

1011
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:48,080
more more dogman sightings

1012
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,840
what is the the end game

1013
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:53,440
here well that's just it i mean is there

1014
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,279
an end game i mean you know people can

1015
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:57,200
speculate about all this stuff as much

1016
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:58,720
as they want

1017
00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:59,919
but

1018
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,159
you know unless we get some evidence or

1019
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:04,640
some indication of what may be going on

1020
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:07,360
or why it's happening

1021
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,399
yeah it's all a guess but uh yeah i mean

1022
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,320
you know you gotta wonder is there is

1023
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:14,079
there something that's gonna break loose

1024
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,000
at some point

1025
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,839
do you think do you think part of it is

1026
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,520
the technology we have lawn where we can

1027
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:21,200
record things easier like you know what

1028
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,879
i mean like we can break out a phone and

1029
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,320
shoot a picture of it so before it was

1030
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:26,720
like i saw this moth man or whatever it

1031
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:29,200
was and you had to tell it to somebody

1032
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:30,960
and then the person was like [\h__\h]

1033
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,919
and then that would be you know what i

1034
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,280
mean that would be kind of it but now

1035
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,520
you can you can show a video of it or

1036
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,760
send you stuff to people like yourselves

1037
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,919
right well unfortunately you know in our

1038
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,679
case with chicago i mean we're not

1039
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,440
getting much video evidence or

1040
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:45,599
photographic evidence because the

1041
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:48,320
sightings are fleeting for the most part

1042
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,560
uh it seems certain people can see it

1043
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:52,480
even if they're in a crowd

1044
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:55,520
uh are these things able to distinguish

1045
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,160
or what sees them or who sees them

1046
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,320
uh it's a lot of different variables

1047
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:02,720
that you know you gotta work around but

1048
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:04,800
um

1049
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,800
i mean it is an enigma even though we

1050
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:08,320
think we're knowing getting more and

1051
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,280
more information as we go but you know i

1052
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:13,040
guess it's like that with everything you

1053
00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:14,160
know

1054
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:15,119
um

1055
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,079
you're in a a bigfoot area people talk

1056
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,320
about bigfoot we're getting more and

1057
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,079
dave scott even told me about this the

1058
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,160
other day that they're getting more

1059
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:28,880
uh dog man upright k9 type sightings up

1060
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,000
in that area as well so um

1061
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:33,839
you know why is that happening i you

1062
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:36,240
know and of course i do believe that

1063
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:37,440
bigfoot

1064
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,480
in some locations is an indigenous being

1065
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,480
just like up there in the pacific

1066
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,640
northwest and and maybe down florida and

1067
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,599
such

1068
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,680
but i think there's a possibility that

1069
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,880
many of these cryptids are

1070
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,480
interdimensional

1071
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,560
there's even a strong belief among our

1072
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:54,880
local indigenous tribes that it's more

1073
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,520
of a paranormal being yeah then a

1074
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:59,680
physical being right like we you know a

1075
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:01,680
general friend i know named chris bose

1076
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,200
who's an aboriginal storyteller an

1077
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,359
artist like he when we'd go squatching

1078
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,440
with him he'd tell us tons of stories

1079
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:09,599
you know and bigfoot's just one just

1080
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:12,000
just one of the many forest spirits that

1081
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:14,000
they that they believe in i mean they're

1082
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,839
big with in our area one of them is the

1083
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,119
tricksters

1084
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,359
which will actually try to lure you away

1085
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:21,119
like out of your home or away from your

1086
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:22,800
campfire by sounding like someone you

1087
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:23,839
know

1088
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:26,560
around the fire and then you hear like

1089
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,720
your friend you know billy

1090
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,720
hey you know saying hey you know jason

1091
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:32,000
come come here come here and they're out

1092
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:33,440
in the woods you go in the woods and the

1093
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:34,560
voice just keeps leading you further and

1094
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:36,160
further away until you're so far away

1095
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:37,440
they just grab you take you and take you

1096
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:38,880
over to the other side you're never seen

1097
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:41,359
again right um there's a strong

1098
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:43,760
strong kind of supernatural belief in

1099
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:46,079
that in the area where i am right now

1100
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,920
um and bigfoot's just one of many and

1101
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,280
and they definitely believe that it's

1102
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:51,920
it's not um it's not physical it's it's

1103
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,240
a it's a interdimensional being of some

1104
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,880
kind you know it's interesting um

1105
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,480
and you know i've heard a lot of stories

1106
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,880
from a lot of indigenous folks

1107
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,160
uh

1108
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:04,079
and then i've heard other stories from

1109
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:06,880
those who from the past and um

1110
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,599
you know most have told me well you know

1111
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:11,839
bigfoot sasquatch where you want to call

1112
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:14,480
them is like a spiritual being does

1113
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:15,839
and um

1114
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:17,599
then i found out something that was

1115
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:19,760
quite interesting i thought was that the

1116
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:22,480
um there used to be a tribe in this area

1117
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:25,040
called the susquehannock

1118
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:26,640
and they uh

1119
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:29,680
and them just like all the other

1120
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,560
uh

1121
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:32,320
tribes that were in this area at one

1122
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:33,920
point or another

1123
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,040
uh they had the stories about the uh

1124
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,440
about these beings as being

1125
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:41,920
forest spirits and such

1126
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:42,960
and

1127
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,920
i actually saw a picture of a

1128
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:47,119
shield

1129
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,079
that the susquehanna used and it was

1130
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:52,320
actually a drawing of a bigfoot

1131
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:53,200
really

1132
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:54,960
on the shield you know and that's the

1133
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,280
first i've ever seen that

1134
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,160
now so from what i understand maybe it

1135
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,800
was used like a talisman or some

1136
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,800
you know like that for them as a

1137
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:06,960
protector or whatever

1138
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:11,750
i think

1139
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:13,359
it could be like why and why wouldn't it

1140
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,720
i guess you know anything anything is

1141
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,119
possible you know and just just the same

1142
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:18,960
where like you have a lot of um

1143
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:20,480
you know the the first nations are

1144
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:22,079
indigenous peoples saying that they're

1145
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,560
connected to the sky people like aliens

1146
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:26,400
and they those were their ancestors and

1147
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,079
they have a close relationship with them

1148
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:30,480
so why not maybe you know maybe bigfoot

1149
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:32,079
isn't so much an interdimensional being

1150
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:33,520
as it's an extraterrestrial being the

1151
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,800
people have been abducted by aliens and

1152
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,640
seen bigfoot on spaceships right like i

1153
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,720
mean it's it's all

1154
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,560
it makes in a way that makes almost the

1155
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:41,839
most sense

1156
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,000
well yeah i mean i've had you know i've

1157
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:46,400
had people who have been involved

1158
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:48,560
habituations or

1159
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,680
have had uh bigfoot creatures on their

1160
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:53,119
their property

1161
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:55,040
and i've had a couple tell me oh yeah i

1162
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:56,480
saw one

1163
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:58,720
literally walk out of a craft one time

1164
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:01,760
you know it's like okay well

1165
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:04,000
you know it's not any different or

1166
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,440
more

1167
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,960
crazy than some of the other things i've

1168
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,040
heard about these things so yeah

1169
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:11,440
it's very possible

1170
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:12,240
um

1171
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,119
have you looked into the faye folk in

1172
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,599
hauntings in paranormal activity

1173
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:21,760
you know what vince honestly no not too

1174
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:24,320
much um and that's just an area that's

1175
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:26,000
just sort of becoming interested in i

1176
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,680
know there's a lot of people that sort

1177
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,680
of look into the fey and and and that

1178
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:31,359
but we don't have

1179
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,640
in western canada it's kind of the

1180
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,560
newest part of canada so there's not a

1181
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,880
lot of strong connection to our roots

1182
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,800
you know from from the uk or ireland or

1183
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,320
anything like that so

1184
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,240
there's not even that much talk about it

1185
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:45,280
out where we are like it's it's very

1186
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,200
and even in canada

1187
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:49,119
people here just don't want to talk

1188
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:51,200
about the paranormal that much still

1189
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,720
like people are becoming more open to it

1190
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:54,000
and i think partly because it's just

1191
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:55,520
becoming popular with all the tv shows

1192
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,839
et cetera and documentaries but you know

1193
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,599
they're not there's just not this

1194
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:01,040
connection whereas if you go to eastern

1195
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:02,160
canada it'd probably be like certain

1196
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,440
parts of the state so there's a lot more

1197
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,359
talk about the fey and they embrace it a

1198
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,960
lot more

1199
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:08,240
which makes me think i'm living on the

1200
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:14,840
yeah maybe i don't know

1201
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:17,119
[Laughter]

1202
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:17,920
so

1203
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,520
to look into because i know there is

1204
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:23,359
quite a correlation between the fey and

1205
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:24,880
hauntings and the paranormal and

1206
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,119
paranormal activity in general right

1207
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,119
yeah um

1208
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:32,160
jose sanchez asked but et's are physical

1209
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:34,560
beings not spirits so it's a little

1210
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:36,160
strange that they would be associated

1211
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,520
with near-death

1212
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:40,160
experience phenomena right

1213
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,680
i don't know what do you think about

1214
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:43,119
that it's

1215
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,960
yeah like that's what i figure that that

1216
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:46,240
they're you know a solid being but it

1217
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:47,599
seems like these the people that are

1218
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,960
having these near-death experiences and

1219
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:50,319
especially the abduction ones it's more

1220
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:51,520
of a

1221
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,240
becomes this metaphysical experience

1222
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,200
right and i i can't i haven't had one so

1223
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,440
i don't know but it's

1224
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:01,520
you're going because even like even

1225
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:02,560
people that have these near-death

1226
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,359
experiences like the beings to them are

1227
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:07,440
are are so that they encounter on the

1228
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,560
other side seem very much like you and i

1229
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,880
um like they're there like it's you know

1230
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,560
you could physically reach out and touch

1231
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,920
them yeah

1232
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,920
i mean i mean you know they're just yeah

1233
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:19,119
they're

1234
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,400
yeah exactly um

1235
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:25,280
i i guess they are you know i i had an

1236
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:26,319
encounter

1237
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,839
induction and

1238
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:31,839
when i went through that

1239
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:34,640
the three tall beings that

1240
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:36,880
i had an encounter with were

1241
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,960
they looked like they were

1242
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,560
real i mean they didn't look like they

1243
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,960
were some type of

1244
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:44,960
manifestation of some type of

1245
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:47,599
non-ethical being

1246
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:49,440
same and i've even know know people who

1247
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,640
have had encounters with i think it was

1248
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:52,880
even tim weisberg with midnight to say

1249
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:55,040
tim weisbach you mentioned he had a

1250
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:56,160
encounter with a ghost where he could

1251
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,839
actually physically touch it is that

1252
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,520
right that's what he said yeah like you

1253
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:01,200
could almost physically touch this

1254
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,760
spirit um and i mean there's got to be

1255
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:05,040
something to that because you do hear of

1256
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,400
people being like actually physically

1257
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,640
moved by spirits for sure what i mean

1258
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,000
i've even had an experience where i

1259
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,240
wasn't physically moved but one was on

1260
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:13,920
like i was opening a door in this tunnel

1261
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:16,240
system at an abandoned asylum there's no

1262
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,920
way the door had a there's no pressure

1263
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:19,200
you could grab and it would just swing

1264
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:21,359
freely i pulled it open and something on

1265
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:22,720
the other side that door grabbed it and

1266
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:24,319
pulled it closed with such force that i

1267
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,480
was pulled off my feet and i'm 6-1 at

1268
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:28,319
the time weighed like 200 pounds

1269
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,680
so that's got to be some kind of

1270
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,280
manifestation of some kind of physical

1271
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,040
energy to do that

1272
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,359
so i think

1273
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,520
all this stuff maybe can become physical

1274
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:39,280
or non-physical non-corporeal however

1275
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,160
you want it almost at will

1276
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:44,319
yeah i think you're right absolutely i

1277
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,319
think you're right about that um you

1278
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:48,160
know you hear about poltergeist cases

1279
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:49,920
and even though for the most part

1280
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:51,280
they're just

1281
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,599
uh thought forms or tulpas for the most

1282
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,319
part but they do seem to sometimes

1283
00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:58,480
manifest into something

1284
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:02,240
more than non-corporal i mean you know

1285
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,760
oh yeah like the enemies move things

1286
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:06,240
around they touch people they

1287
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,280
physically touch people and

1288
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,599
yeah i mean absolutely

1289
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:13,119
people have been slapped by them you

1290
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:14,160
know

1291
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:17,440
thrown they have chairs moved their beds

1292
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,960
lifted up like that

1293
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:20,319
that's not

1294
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,520
even if you can't see it there's

1295
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,119
something there that can move that and

1296
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,960
that's a that's like a to me a physical

1297
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,359
form of energy absolutely it's some type

1298
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,000
of force that's got yeah the ability to

1299
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:32,319
um yeah to manifest into something

1300
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,920
possibly real

1301
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:35,760
um

1302
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,079
have you ever from from vince have you

1303
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:40,400
ever experienced shadow beings shadow

1304
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,280
creatures oh yeah yeah no i i like

1305
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,640
that's actually where i am right now

1306
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,920
where i live that's almost the the

1307
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:47,839
majority of what we have going on here

1308
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:49,760
is that right shadow beings what are

1309
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,640
your thoughts on those

1310
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,280
it's to me i mean

1311
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,359
it it's either a different form of a

1312
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,200
spirit or

1313
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,720
it could be something like i'm a big

1314
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:02,319
becoming a big believer in the whole

1315
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,440
multiverse theory idea well yeah you

1316
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:07,200
know that it's something that something

1317
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,480
did that to me if it's anything's

1318
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:10,880
interdimensional it's more of a shadow

1319
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,560
being i think they're beings from

1320
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,000
somewhere else because they're more than

1321
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,760
a ghost they're not a

1322
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:17,520
ghost they don't seem to haunt but

1323
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,319
they're

1324
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,800
um

1325
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,800
but yeah i beyond that i don't have too

1326
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,560
much thought on what it could be i just

1327
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,480
know i've seen one and it's just bizarre

1328
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,640
like it's it's bizarre and it was the

1329
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,640
one i saw i was sitting on the floor

1330
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,000
listening to music

1331
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,480
downstairs here and i felt

1332
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,560
a presence behind me

1333
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,760
so i turned and looked and it was

1334
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:39,200
standing there it was a shadow it was

1335
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:40,560
tall and thin almost like what a gray

1336
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:41,839
would look like

1337
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:43,119
although featureless it was just a

1338
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,800
shadow we looked at each other and then

1339
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:46,720
it turned and it ran

1340
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,800
but not like it ran so fast it was

1341
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,000
almost just like a blur just

1342
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,000
disappearing but i saw it turn and run

1343
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,400
but it almost like speed it sped up in

1344
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:56,400
some way like time sped up

1345
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,280
um

1346
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:59,359
and that was just quite alarming to see

1347
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:00,400
that it wasn't even you know it was like

1348
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:02,960
you know nine o'clock at night

1349
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,359
basement so you know the um

1350
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:07,920
the shadow beings that i've

1351
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:09,920
encountered

1352
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,599
working with clients

1353
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,520
they just seem to be feeders to me i

1354
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:15,440
mean they're just um

1355
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,720
i don't i don't think there's any

1356
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:18,880
connection to any real spirits or

1357
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:21,200
anything that once was living

1358
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:23,839
uh i i think there's a good possibility

1359
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:26,960
maybe extraterrestrial or some type of

1360
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,200
you know you said multiverse maybe some

1361
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:31,520
type of interdimensional being

1362
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,760
but yeah they seem to feed off a life

1363
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,520
force they seem to

1364
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,400
to gather energy from locations where

1365
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:40,400
there's a lot of dysfunction

1366
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,520
death

1367
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:44,000
illness or something to that effect

1368
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,640
yeah and a horizontal to get rid of

1369
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,920
well yeah

1370
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,839
exactly and it's

1371
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,280
you know which

1372
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:53,119
i like the feeding idea because they do

1373
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,640
seem to be associated with certain or

1374
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,319
people who are interested in a bad place

1375
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:58,079
i know when i had my experience i was as

1376
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,440
a crime journalist so i was seeing

1377
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,960
horrible stuff all the time and it was

1378
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:02,480
scary

1379
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:04,240
so that's that's when i saw them the

1380
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:05,440
most and when they kind of reappeared

1381
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:06,560
was around the time that my mother

1382
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,000
passed away you know what i mean and

1383
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:10,000
then that kind of thing so i think

1384
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:12,079
definitely that i like i don't like that

1385
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:13,359
idea but that's the thing that makes the

1386
00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:15,280
most sense to me as food they're not but

1387
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:17,359
i don't see them as a soup as a as a as

1388
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:18,480
a ghost or anything like that and i

1389
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,359
don't think they're anything that's

1390
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:22,000
that's lived on this earth ever no i

1391
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,880
don't know

1392
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:24,319
the term demon around because that's a

1393
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:26,079
loaded loaded thing i think it's even

1394
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,440
different from that phenomenon about

1395
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:28,960
phenomenon's even real you know what i

1396
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,760
mean

1397
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,200
i think you're like me because you know

1398
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,599
i i believe evil is evil and the you the

1399
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:35,839
term of demon

1400
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:39,119
uh well you know it's malevolent

1401
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,480
people like to use a lot of different

1402
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,359
phrases for bad things but yeah i i

1403
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,280
think shadow beings come as close to

1404
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:47,680
that as anything yeah

1405
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:49,520
yeah no exactly and in our field we call

1406
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:51,040
them negative hauntings instead of like

1407
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:52,720
a demonic haunting it's just right just

1408
00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:55,839
negative energy you know like i think

1409
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,599
that's become more of a tv thing that's

1410
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,359
given the term demon

1411
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:00,960
prominent yeah

1412
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,920
yeah i i i've just never liked that word

1413
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,359
i mean

1414
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:07,440
you know i've talked to people who do

1415
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:10,960
exorcisms or do

1416
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:13,440
deliverances and stuff and that word

1417
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,480
demon comes up it just kind of

1418
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:18,400
i don't know have you ever seen a demon

1419
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:21,280
oh yeah well i'm glad you had because i

1420
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,240
haven't

1421
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,640
you know i i've seen a lot of bad things

1422
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,160
but something

1423
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,800
is it you know is it really a demon

1424
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,800
i mean what the hell is a demon

1425
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:33,040
no i know that it's bad

1426
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,480
peter's the same he's been doing this

1427
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:36,160
for almost 30 years all over the world

1428
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,680
and he's not seen anything resembling

1429
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:39,520
anything demonic and he even does work

1430
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,200
for an ordained exorcist and out of the

1431
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:42,880
ten years he's done work for them yeah

1432
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,480
it's just investigators maybe had one

1433
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,319
case maybe where it could have been

1434
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:48,079
something that could have led to that's

1435
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:49,520
how he describes it it's not like even a

1436
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:52,000
defined oh yeah is possession here you

1437
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,280
know what i mean it's like maybe

1438
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,920
possibly could bleed that way exactly

1439
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,200
potentially

1440
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,520
that sort of thing so

1441
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,160
uh we're nighthawks that asked uh we're

1442
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,079
stated some of the dogman cryptid

1443
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,800
creatures are supernatural more than

1444
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:09,760
likely demonic sources so

1445
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:11,440
i mean that's his statement so i don't

1446
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,599
know if that what you think about that

1447
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,760
you know i like i said again

1448
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,839
um

1449
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:19,920
it can be supernatural i mean is it

1450
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,240
demonic it's just bad you know i think

1451
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,760
some of them are bad

1452
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:25,520
i think so i think it's the same with

1453
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:26,960
goat like like with ghosts that are

1454
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:28,880
actual spirits of people who've passed

1455
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:30,800
on some if you were a good person your

1456
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:32,839
ghosts probably going to be a good ghost

1457
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,359
absolutely the traits do follow yeah

1458
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:36,559
right like

1459
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:38,079
that that's just it and i think yeah i

1460
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,359
agree with you that dog men and those

1461
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,760
kind of cryptic creatures

1462
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,280
if there's if there's a super if they're

1463
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:45,440
supernatural in origin which i i think

1464
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:48,880
something like a dog man would be um it

1465
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:49,599
would

1466
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,200
probably just do whatever they do seem

1467
00:49:01,270 --> 00:48:59,280
to be more vicious like the stories seem

1468
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:01,280
to center much more on negative

1469
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:02,800
encounters than anything else whereas

1470
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,720
bigfoot had had its mix of negative and

1471
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,079
positive

1472
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,880
dogments definitely been more

1473
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,480
uh like almost like werewolf encounters

1474
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:11,920
it's just some vicious animal in the

1475
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:13,760
woods kind of thing yeah they they kind

1476
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,480
of stand their ground and uh they don't

1477
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:18,480
seem like they're too fearful much but

1478
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,040
you know i've heard people say that

1479
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:23,040
uh you know you hear about this mind

1480
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:25,359
speak phenomena or infrasound like these

1481
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,559
things can kind of back people off

1482
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,880
maybe they do have a specific type of

1483
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,880
ability to do something that as opposed

1484
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:34,160
you know even people talk about that

1485
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,520
with bigfoot

1486
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,440
so um maybe that's something they

1487
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,760
perfected to a

1488
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:41,520
a bigger degree i mean we hear about

1489
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,200
that with these mothman sightings in

1490
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:45,760
chicago where uh you know people are

1491
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:48,559
kind of talked into just or s

1492
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,839
told to just back off and um

1493
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:53,520
have lost

1494
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:54,559
physical

1495
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,880
sense of their legs i mean they drop to

1496
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:59,119
the ground sometimes

1497
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,480
there's lots of bigfoot that have been

1498
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,720
reported that way right like you know i

1499
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,960
mean i've even been out in the woods

1500
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:07,280
at a cabin in local cabin

1501
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:09,200
in one moment everything's fine you know

1502
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,880
we're in bigfoot country the next moment

1503
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:12,160
like it's like all the hairs go up on

1504
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:13,200
the back of my neck and i get this

1505
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:14,160
feeling of dread it's like you know i

1506
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:15,440
gotta go i shouldn't be here anymore

1507
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,400
it's time to leave and i've had that

1508
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:18,480
happen twice it's what you know more

1509
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,920
than 30 years i was going to this place

1510
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,599
like you know you just listen i'm like

1511
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:24,000
okay i'm going home

1512
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:25,119
so i don't want to be here in case

1513
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:26,559
something shows up

1514
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:27,520
uh

1515
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:30,240
moon medicine force ass ever experienced

1516
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,680
a spirit hologram before like a snapshot

1517
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,359
out of time

1518
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:37,280
oh

1519
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,720
yeah like i

1520
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,480
we've that like a couple pictures that

1521
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,839
we've received

1522
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,440
or that we've taken at different

1523
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:44,960
locations have definitely looked like

1524
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,240
something

1525
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,480
that wasn't from the present time period

1526
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,400
it looked like sort of you know

1527
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:52,400
clothing from like the 1800s and this

1528
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:53,920
was in the gold plates which would make

1529
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,119
sense that's when the gold rush would

1530
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,880
happen as frontier times where in the

1531
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,240
picture it definitely looked like the

1532
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,880
clothing was was not of our time period

1533
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:02,319
but that'd be the closest to like sort

1534
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:03,839
of a hologram kind of thing i haven't

1535
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:05,119
seen something kind of appear in front

1536
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,440
of me that's looked looked like that

1537
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,880
you know it does it does seem to be

1538
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,720
places with a lot of energy or a lot of

1539
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:12,960
activity occurred at one point doesn't

1540
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,359
seem to have a lot of glitchy

1541
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,280
phenomena where maybe we'll get

1542
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:19,839
flashbacks i'm not necessarily saying

1543
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:22,319
it's a dimensional thing but i think

1544
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:24,559
there's an energy that kind of

1545
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,040
crosses back and forth

1546
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:29,040
to where people can see certain things

1547
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,920
um

1548
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:31,520
i can't say i've ever experienced that

1549
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:33,280
but i've talked to people who said they

1550
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:35,920
have mm-hmm

1551
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,599
the closest is at a place where we've

1552
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,359
investigated a residential school the

1553
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:41,200
same sort of event would repeat itself

1554
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,599
always at this in the same location

1555
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,599
at like you know midnight you can hear

1556
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,319
running down the fire escape always

1557
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:50,000
this corner of the building at midnight

1558
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,200
and it just sounded like it was

1559
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:53,119
something replaying from the time that

1560
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,480
this facility was open and someone was

1561
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:57,040
probably running down those stairs yeah

1562
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:58,640
that's like where i'm at i mean i'm not

1563
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,720
far from gettysburg and i've been on the

1564
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,000
battlefield

1565
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:04,720
most of my life and uh most of that is

1566
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,040
just residual or just kind of

1567
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:09,119
energy that kind of pops back up but at

1568
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:11,280
certain time there's certain plays i

1569
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,880
mean occasionally you do get something

1570
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:13,920
that's

1571
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,960
still out there but not as much as maybe

1572
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:18,480
at one point

1573
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:19,920
but uh yeah that's what people

1574
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,160
experience out there a lot

1575
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:24,240
makes sense it's a scene of intense

1576
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:25,520
trauma right

1577
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,720
that's gonna leave it that's gonna leave

1578
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,800
an impact and something in the ground

1579
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,240
yeah yeah

1580
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,240
uh james west wants to know have you

1581
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,839
ever had a personal experience with a

1582
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:35,200
dog man

1583
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:36,000
no

1584
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,520
little about yeah in my area what we we

1585
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,760
get here is it is more the traditional

1586
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:47,599
bigfoot sighting

1587
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,880
and then sometimes like we say these

1588
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:49,760
other

1589
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:51,760
forest spirit trickster things going on

1590
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:54,240
but bigfoot's the big thing here

1591
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,599
um yeah i would i don't know what i'd

1592
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:57,359
love to have a dog man experience i

1593
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:02,549
i'm telling you some of the stories i

1594
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:03,920
hear around here

1595
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:05,359
no way in hell i want to have big

1596
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,960
encounter having a close account one of

1597
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,079
those things

1598
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,119
uh you know if if it's at a distance i

1599
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,599
see it okay there it is i i see it now

1600
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:15,119
i'll do the extent of mine and i'm in my

1601
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:16,400
truck and i'm ready to go and it's like

1602
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:22,230
yeah i'm worth it brother i mean no way

1603
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,160
how i want to have any deals or all

1604
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:26,240
those things like i said but nice to see

1605
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,190
uh jose asked um

1606
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:37,280
technology definitely has had an impact

1607
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:39,920
on the paranormal field i guess to some

1608
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,960
degree it has i mean um

1609
00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:44,720
you know there's so many gadgets out

1610
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:47,520
there now i i guess it can only but help

1611
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:49,520
at some point just so it's not giving us

1612
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,200
false readings

1613
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:53,599
but um i i don't trust like the any of

1614
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:56,000
the apps like at all oh me neither

1615
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:58,400
there's no way i tried one once i got

1616
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,000
one evp and then it told me i needed to

1617
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:01,920
subscribe for 5.99 a month so i was like

1618
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,079
i deleted it immediately from my phone

1619
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,079
we just stick with digital recorders

1620
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,559
motion cameras like the laser grid and

1621
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:10,319
we'll do we'll use rem pods you know

1622
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,000
just like just a

1623
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,400
is a hope but in the spirit box we use

1624
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,319
that quite a bit as well lately but we

1625
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:18,240
even then we find it

1626
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,839
there's too many opportunities for a

1627
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,240
false a false positive like in terms of

1628
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:24,000
because the radio chatter like if you

1629
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,760
get a good old-fashioned evp recorded on

1630
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,040
a digital recorder or even an old

1631
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,359
reel-to-reel that holds a lot more

1632
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,440
weight i've gotten my best ones from

1633
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:33,839
those things absolutely

1634
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,400
yeah um

1635
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:38,720
william nighthawk has lana you must

1636
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,520
think of big brother as elementary

1637
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:43,599
elemental being able to walk in both

1638
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,040
worlds i think he's talking about

1639
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,760
sasquatch yeah i think they do i mean i

1640
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:50,000
think they i think they walk in a lot of

1641
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,240
different worlds to be honest with you

1642
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,480
for sure yeah i i think that's

1643
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:56,240
absolutely true

1644
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:57,119
yeah

1645
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:58,640
that's and that's the best way to like

1646
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,839
people like well why haven't we found a

1647
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:01,440
body and why when why don't we see it

1648
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:03,119
more often because it's not here all the

1649
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:05,920
time exactly that's how i look at it

1650
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:07,839
yeah i i think that you know and then

1651
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:09,920
people and you hear all this the

1652
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:11,760
scientific

1653
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:14,079
uh malarkey about ah we're only going to

1654
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:17,440
be able to prove it if we get a body or

1655
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,559
anything

1656
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,880
any physical evidence well yeah that's

1657
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,400
nice to see it but

1658
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,079
when's that going to happen

1659
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:26,400
uh that probably will never happen i

1660
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:27,760
doubt it'll happen

1661
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:29,599
i i agree it's it's one of those things

1662
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,559
even like

1663
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:32,240
like you look at when nids did their

1664
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:34,000
their big you know multi-year thing out

1665
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,160
at skinwalker ranch right like you had

1666
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:38,000
people who are highly trained scientists

1667
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,520
seeing things

1668
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,880
but their equipment their cameras

1669
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,559
wouldn't pick it up they'd be like these

1670
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:44,160
blobs on the camera it wouldn't look

1671
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,839
like they would report seeing having

1672
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:47,440
read the book

1673
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:49,119
the portals open and things walking

1674
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:50,480
through it but all the camera got was

1675
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,680
suddenly this orange light appeared on

1676
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:53,440
this camera and it didn't pick anything

1677
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:56,000
up i think this phenomena doesn't work

1678
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,359
the way that

1679
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:59,119
people think it should work you know

1680
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:00,880
what i mean or want it to work you're

1681
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:02,880
not just always going to get it with a

1682
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,480
video camera or

1683
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,960
recreate it in a lab it's beyond that

1684
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:08,480
yeah i agree with you

1685
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:11,520
uh

1686
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:14,640
maury gotti asked do you do anything to

1687
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:17,280
protect yourself from negative energy

1688
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,240
oh yeah like i i mean i meditate daily

1689
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,040
i do grounding exercises several times a

1690
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,799
week uh whenever we go do an

1691
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:26,400
investigation we start off by saying

1692
00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:27,760
we're just here to communicate we do our

1693
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:29,440
you we're just here to communicate we

1694
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:31,520
mean you no harm wish no harm to come

1695
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:32,960
unto us when we leave we do that thank

1696
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:34,480
you for your time you're not welcome to

1697
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:36,079
follow you know like we set the the

1698
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:38,480
boundaries which i find is enough

1699
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:39,359
really

1700
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,960
um especially like none of us are

1701
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:42,319
particularly religious people so we

1702
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,000
don't do any kind of large prayer or

1703
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:46,160
anything like that we just

1704
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,359
it's part a lot of it has to do with

1705
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:49,200
your will and how you approach it

1706
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:50,240
yeah well

1707
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:54,000
i'm the same way i mean i you know

1708
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,960
uh

1709
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,240
you know if i get a haunting or

1710
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,079
something involved with if it gets

1711
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:59,760
beyond me i'll say yeah if you want to

1712
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,119
go to a priest or you want to have

1713
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,440
someone do the rights fine

1714
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,280
that's beyond me i mean i'm not going in

1715
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,680
that that direction as far as

1716
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:10,559
me and protection i i use um

1717
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:13,359
i do i do use if i'm specifically an

1718
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:15,839
area i use you either use a white or

1719
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:18,000
golden light surrounding me surrounding

1720
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:19,599
my auras and such

1721
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,240
and i do grounding but i always when i

1722
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:25,440
go into a location there are two um

1723
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,520
two stones i keep with me all the time

1724
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:29,599
and that's a black tourmaline and the

1725
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,599
yitrium fluorite and i always i've

1726
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:33,520
always had those with me

1727
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:35,119
yeah and i don't seem to reflect a lot

1728
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:37,599
of things yeah yeah and the white light

1729
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:39,200
thing is i do that i make that part of

1730
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,640
my grounding like that just is part of

1731
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,640
that and i find that makes tremendous

1732
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,480
difference

1733
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,799
yeah i mean even there's just something

1734
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:48,400
that

1735
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:52,160
can

1736
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:55,440
kind of you know have an effect

1737
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,880
i think so you can clear stuff out of

1738
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:58,400
your body too with it right like you

1739
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,680
know by the time i finish like the

1740
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,960
grounding with the white light i feel so

1741
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,880
much better just as a whole i feel more

1742
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:04,559
grounded it's really respecting me and i

1743
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:05,280
think

1744
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:06,960
it has a lot it's like what you put out

1745
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,480
into the world is what you get back

1746
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:10,160
right and so and you'll pick that up too

1747
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:11,440
i think you know

1748
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:13,760
as well so exactly you got to manage

1749
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,880
that

1750
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:17,280
oh i agree with you i agree with you so

1751
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:18,400
um

1752
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:21,599
so jason were that boy this hour went by

1753
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:24,319
quick it sure did how long once you tell

1754
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,760
the folks how they can get in contact

1755
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:27,599
with you and uh

1756
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,960
uh if they're you're going to be doing

1757
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:30,880
anything how they can get your books and

1758
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,000
so forth and so on well yeah all the

1759
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:36,319
books like dying light and the two i

1760
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:37,760
want to believe titles are available

1761
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:38,960
through beyond the freight publishing

1762
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,640
and they're on amazon

1763
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,240
as well uh the paranormal network that

1764
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:43,920
i'm the manager of it's uh it's on

1765
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:45,280
youtube so you would just search out the

1766
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,880
paranormal network on youtube it's the

1767
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:48,640
one with the black background and the

1768
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:50,559
white pn and we're also on facebook at

1769
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,400
paranormal headquarters

1770
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:54,240
for myself just come find me on facebook

1771
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:56,960
or instagram at jhulit72

1772
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:58,640
reach out i'm always willing to talk and

1773
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:01,200
listen you know as best i can

1774
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:02,319
kind of thing you get you can get

1775
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:04,000
inundated but i try to get back to

1776
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:05,520
everyone eventually

1777
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,359
um and that's what we do

1778
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,040
it is and canadian paranormal foundation

1779
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,040
is up on up on facebook as well at

1780
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,520
canadian paranormal foundation

1781
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:16,000
well jason was great meeting you finally

1782
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:20,160
and um look um keep in contact and uh

1783
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:21,599
you know maybe we'll get you back on

1784
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,720
here soon

1785
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:24,640
if you interested in joining the round

1786
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,960
table that'd be great as well so uh you

1787
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:29,280
know absolutely no uh this has been

1788
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:30,400
great long it's been great to finally

1789
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:32,240
meet you and talk to you and and be a

1790
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,760
part of this show uh

1791
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:35,200
and yeah i'd love to come back and do a

1792
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:36,319
round table that would be that'd be

1793
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:37,680
fantastic so let's definitely keep in

1794
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:38,480
touch

1795
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:40,160
okay will you take care have a good

1796
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:47,190
now if you have a sighting or encounter

1797
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,880
report uh

1798
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:50,559
that you'd like to be considered for

1799
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:53,200
personal report show or post on phantoms

1800
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,280
and monsters uh

1801
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:57,359
blog feel free to forward to me at uh

1802
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:00,880
lawn stripper fans monsters com

1803
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:02,799
uh if you had an unexplained encounter

1804
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:04,480
sighting feel free to contact me through

1805
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:05,760
the blog site

1806
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:08,000
i want to again thank jason hilda for

1807
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,839
joining me this evening and thanks to

1808
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:11,680
each and all of you for

1809
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:14,079
watching and chatting it's you know your

1810
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,000
support is what makes all this possible

1811
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,000
so please like subscribe

1812
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:20,559
share and even comment on the show

1813
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:21,520
so

1814
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,240
this coming wednesday night at nine

1815
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:25,440
o'clock

1816
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:27,680
we'll be presenting another narrated

1817
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:31,280
edition of uh personal reports

1818
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:34,240
and uh then again on friday

1819
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:34,960
we

1820
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:38,079
will also be presenting a hauntings and

1821
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:41,280
malevolent entities roundtable

1822
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:44,640
and my guest will be deliverer bill bean

1823
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:47,200
along with investigators jason mclean

1824
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:49,040
and uh richard

1825
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,480
michelle

1826
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:52,160
and

1827
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:54,880
spirit rescuer amy majors is going to be

1828
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:57,040
tagging along as well so you know that

1829
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,119
should be a very excellent show

1830
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:01,760
so make sure you tune in so until next

1831
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:04,000
week stay healthy and have a safe